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День добрый!

пробовал искать в гугле, у всех эти проблемы как правило после чипа. Ещё в гугле попадаются проблемы по акуму. Акум новый и исправный. Машина 7 лет у одного хозяина, никогда не чиповалась, все родное. Есть смысл пролить блок стоком или это уже мех неисправность в самом блоке и замена?

спасибо.

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ошибки в коротком тесте или текстом.

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ошибки в коротком тесте или текстом.

102100 – The control unit has an internal fault

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видел такое несколько раз на CP46 на столе, бывает когда заливаешь софт который не соответствует eeprom, моторник например от 221 а софт от 166

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видел такое несколько раз на CP46 на столе, бывает когда заливаешь софт который не соответствует eeprom, моторник например от 221 а софт от 166

В гугле очень много ссылок на то что софт не идёт, прошили не так и тд. Но машина то 7 лет у одного человека и того же, он ее не шил. Падает в аварию. Удалить ничем эту ошибку не выходит..

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внутренняя неисправность блока.

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внутренняя неисправность блока.

Спасибо! То есть новый/клон/ремонт самого эбу без вариантов?

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внутренняя неисправность блока.

Или может помочь пролить стоком? Или в данном случае именно мех повреждения?

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Спасибо! То есть новый/клон/ремонт самого эбу без вариантов?

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Или может помочь пролить стоком? Или в данном случае именно мех повреждения?

Да, замена блока, если все так как говорит владелец автомобиля, б/у блок обнули и привяжи к бричке:)

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Спасибо, пока случилось чудо :)) после удаления ошибки бричка ездит два месяца и ничего не появляется.. хз что за глюк был..

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102100 – The control unit has an internal fault

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Здравствуйте у меня проблема была такая же 102100 я пробовал все поменял аккумулятор 2 и программу закачали новую на мерседесе фирме. Сказали что надо мозг поменять ну главный блок управления, 2700eu.чуть не попал.вот дальше я думал до этого мне поменяли temperatur sensor на турбины.
Вот и диагностика не показывает ошибку ,всё работает но мозг не понимает его.поставиль новый оригинал!!! Только.
И всё работает. Не нада ставить всякую не оригинальную электронику. Все беды в нём. Я скажу вам намучилься от души. Много людей послушал и много что поменял. Вот вам советую это 100%если вы меняли электронику ну сенсора и всё что связано с ним. Посмотрите и проверьте те которые вы меняли.
Блок управления не поддерживает не оригинал!!!.у меня мл166 2013 года.
Всем спасибо.
Shamsuddin.

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В гугле очень много ссылок на то что софт не идёт, прошили не так и тд. Но машина то 7 лет у одного человека и того же, он ее не шил. Падает в аварию. Удалить ничем эту ошибку не выходит..

Не надо слушать всех подряд там у тебя всё работает надо посмотреть что ты там менял из электроники? Вот и всё. Поставь оригинал только. Всё что связано с блоком управлением. Должно быть оригинал. Эти блоки чуствительные .

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Поменяй сенсор на турбины и всё будет хорошо.

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102100 DFC_Tprot_Rttp_Err: Laufzeitfehler Tuningschutz ist aufgetreten

102100 DFC_Tprot_Rttp_Err: Runtime error tuning protection has occurred

других более подробных описаний нет, но явно код неисправности связан как-то с внутренними проверками блока.

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внутренняя неисправность блока.

Если это внутри блока неисправность то вам будет выдавать на многие ошибкивсе мотор будет уходить на модус короче но ошибка 102100 это связано с электроникой.которую компьютер не может вычеслить вроде работает все и какой-то сенсор барахлит скрытый враг.
Так что надо менять только оригинал. Не стоит экономить на этом. Все сенсоры они связаны между собой даже воздухомер который даёт ошибку а всё работает.

Ура! Спустя почти три года владения Котом и сотней тысяч пробега вместе, наконец, решили проблему с «чеком». Загорался «чек» с ошибкой 102100 и коробка вставала в аварию, больше зацепиться было не за что. Как и предполагалось, дело было в кривой прошивке после удаления «сажи».
На сколько я поняла, «сажу» удалили неправильно. Необходимо прописать в прошивке замену «сажи» на новую, затем удалить, иначе мозг будет через какое-то время «думать», что «сажа» забита и пытаться её регенерировать, чего естественно сделать у него не получается, по этому он выпадал в ошибку.
В общем и целом откатили на родную прошивку, грамотно удалили «сажу», едет ровно, хоть в отсечку, хоть в пробке, хоть три часа стоит на холостых, «чека» нет.
Была ещё одна проблема, после наваливания, мотор потряхивало, но решили не копать, пока с прошивкой не разберёмся. После прошивки трясти не перестало. Думали либо клапан обратки (регулятор давления),

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ML350 – Fault Code -102100


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Hi guys,

Looking for advice please.

To cut a long story short…

-Bought a 2012 ML350 BlueTech
-Had it remapped
-Engine warning light came on
-Took it back to remap company
– This is the code – 102100
– He told me this is a battery capacity issue – battery test said running at 30%
– Removed code and discussed ordering a new battery
– I drove 150miles to my parents
– Code came on again
– Local mechanic thinks, Merc need to have it
– Local mechanic said battery test said 80% ok

I can find the code online listed as – 102100 / ‘Control module has an internal error’ But is this a genuine battery issue or something more serious due to the remap?

Thanks guys and gals for your responses.

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Bought a battery for my ML a few months ago (Varta) for about £100 and it cured various transmission problems I’d had for months.

£100 is a pretty cheap for a diagnosis. If it fixes your problem it will also be a cheap fix.

You’ll need a new battery sooner or later anyway…

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so the car was ok before the map or did you not drive it very far before the map so the EML hadn’t had chance to come on ?

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so the car was ok before the map or did you not drive it very far before the map so the EML hadn’t had chance to come on ?

Yes it was ok before the remap. I’ve had new battery today and so tomorrow I’ll do a long run. It normally comes on after 1hr 45mins. So a long run tomorrow to test.

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Hi! Have you fixed the car?

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Hi! Have you fixed the car?

He hasn’t been seen on the forum since July buddy , I take it you have similar issues

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Not me, but i have a friend with the same problem, and no one knows what the problem is.

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I’m also having this issue @ 1hr 45 , has anyone gotten to the bottom of it?

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For anyone else getting this problem , provided my tuner with the symptoms and error code , he forwarded this info on to his map supplier quantum who immediately knew the problem and sent back an updated map which was re flashed , will have to wait till next long journey to see if resolved , unfortunately he didnt get the specifics of the issue with the original map so can’t comment on the underlying cause , but suffice to say it wasn’t 100%, but the after sales support from quantum was top notch as I only asked him yesterday!

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Hi I think I have the same problem with my Merc ML350.
So bough the car a few weeks ago from a used car dealership after about a week the engine management light came on.

Done a diagonistic with my Autel kit and it gave a few error codes one of which is 102100. this made the EML go on.

I started to believe based on what I read on this form that the car has probably been remapped prior to me buying it.

Did someone solve this issues? It seem to come on after about 150 miles.

Help pls.

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Hi I think I have the same problem with my Merc ML350.
So bough the car a few weeks ago from a used car dealership after about a week the engine management light came on.

Done a diagonistic with my Autel kit and it gave a few error codes one of which is 102100. this made the EML go on.

I started to believe based on what I read on this form that the car has probably been remapped prior to me buying it.

Did someone solve this issues? It seem to come on after about 150 miles.

Help pls.

Probably best using MB star for diagnostics or MB specific readers like icarsoft to gain some knowledge of what the fault is

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Probably best using MB star for diagnostics or MB specific readers like icarsoft to gain some knowledge of what the fault is

Hi the Autel software should be just as good? for every manufacturer you need to buy the software which I did for Mercedes.

Does Icarsoft gives you more in depth knowledge about the fault versus the screenshot attached?

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Mine appears to be fine since the second map was loaded , although I have only done one long trip of about the time it was taking to come on , I would suggest you take it to a reputable tuner and get them to re-map or load the standard map back on and see if it solves your problem , you autel is reading the code correctly as my xentry only picks up the same info

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Mine appears to be fine since the second map was loaded , although I have only done one long trip of about the time it was taking to come on , I would suggest you take it to a reputable tuner and get them to re-map or load the standard map back on and see if it solves your problem , you autel is reading the code correctly as my xentry only picks up the same info

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Hi thank you for the reply, so hou say the map was the problem for you? Do you atill use Adblue or ia the function deleted (eco mode).

I would appreciate if you have some details to share about the problem or what exactly Quantum done.

I might go to them to fix this issue but would help with some details.

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Map was 100% the problem, my car never had the adblue system as it’s a c class, just get someone who is good to remap again and you should fix the problem, GAD tuning are highly recommend

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Thank you. I was curios about Quantum as I have here in Romford a Quantum dealer.
If you recommand them I will give it a try.

I have a ML350 w166 12 plate and tought DPF has problems, but if its only the software or ECU I will probably need to get it flashed

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Thank you. I was curios about Quantum as I have here in Romford a Quantum dealer.
If you recommand them I will give it a try.

I have a ML350 w166 12 plate and tought DPF has problems, but if its only the software or ECU I will probably need to get it flashed

Gad is only in Burnham ,Essex . That’s where anyone on here would recommend

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Thank you. I was curios about Quantum as I have here in Romford a Quantum dealer.
If you recommand them I will give it a try.

I have a ML350 w166 12 plate and tought DPF has problems, but if its only the software or ECU I will probably need to get it flashed

We would be happy to check over your calibration data and see if anything sticks out to us!

We are currently shut to public until the 9th as my wife had our second daughter so working from home! Also the week following that our new Linked AWD dyno will be installed but to check what has been done would not require the Dyno

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I have just bought an E350 S212. Running for 3 weeks no issues at all in that time. 3 days ago drove to the in-laws 1hr 45 mins into the journey the engine management light comes on and the car goes into limp mode. RAC called and diagnosed as below, cleared fault and indicated that it might never come on again was likely a temp fault. Drove numerous journeys over the next few days no issues. So I thought everything was okay. Then 1hr 45mins into the return journey exactly the same happens. Now waiting for RAC to see if the fault code is similar. Were the similar issues resolved with a Re-Map? and did it ever re-occur after that?

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My recently acquired 2012 W221 S350L S-Class (Bluetec Diesel) shows engine management light. I plug in my icarsoft mb v2.0 and it indicates fault code 102100: State Historic “Control module has an internal error”. I have searched this and found a couple of mentions that it could refer to a previous remap (which my car hasn’t had to my knowledge). I erase the code and after a few hours driving, the EML comes on again with the same and only info.

Can someone shed any further light on this code please? Many thanks.

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ML350 – Fault Code -102100

Hi guys, Looking for advice please. To cut a long story short… -Bought a 2012 ML350 BlueTech -Had it remapped -Engine warning light came on -Took it back to remap company – This is the code – 102100 – He told me this is a battery capacity issue – battery test said running at 30% – Removed…


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ML350 – Fault Code -102100

Hi guys, Looking for advice please. To cut a long story short… -Bought a 2012 ML350 BlueTech -Had it remapped -Engine warning light came on -Took it back to remap company – This is the code – 102100 – He told me this is a battery capacity issue – battery test said running at 30% – Removed…


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Thanks for the link. I had already read this before posting but my car has not been remapped. I have a new battery which will be fitted during the next service in 10 days time but was hoping for some insight from anyone who has experienced the same fault code.

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If you are sure it hasn’t been mapped then your next option (assuming a change of battery does not fix it) is to get it on STAR. Those that have had the same fault code are likely to have posted in the that thread as it is fairly recent.

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I recently bought a GLK 350 cdi 4matic. Everything was ok until I went on a long roadtrip and after around an hour and a half I had a check engine light and the car went into limp mode. So I pulled over, turned off the engine, key out, started the engine again and the limp mode was gone but the check engine light was still there. A friend of mine checked the fault code and it was 1021 “Control module has an internal error”. My mechanic said that he cannot handle the issue. Can you guys share some experience with this exact problem and what resolved the issue ?

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12-13-2021, 12:52 AM

hi,

anyone ever had this problem? I’ve done my freinds 2011 s350 blutec a few days ago, flashed with AT in bench mode no errors etc, started for me first time and drove it back over to him as he had my car.

the next morning he rang me it wont start..

i turned up and nothing, just cranked over, plugged my x431 in and it came up with 102100 internal fault.. deleted the code and it fired up.

ive attached the orignal file which has already had a stage 1 tune from the previous owner and the modified file which has had adblue off if anyone could kindly have a look

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12-13-2021, 01:18 AM

We think not full and correct SCR + DTC OFF … you disconnect the SCR unit after that ?

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(12-13-2021, 12:52 AM)KX250 Wrote: hi,

anyone ever had this problem? I’ve done my freinds 2011 s350 blutec a few days ago, flashed with AT in bench mode no errors etc, started for me first time and drove it back over to him as he had my car.

the next morning he rang me it wont start..

i turned up and nothing, just cranked over, plugged my x431 in and it came up with 102100 internal fault.. deleted the code and it fired up.

ive attached the orignal file which has already had a stage 1 tune from the previous owner and the modified file which has had adblue off if anyone could kindly have a look

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you flashed the automatic gearbox ??

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in some ecus you have to do reset before write and unplug adblue unit, maybe that can be the problem?

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12-13-2021, 01:33 AM

Wow Thanks for the quick reply guys ..

I have disconnected the adblue ecu in the boot on the right side of the spare wheel , also disconnected the src on the exhaust and the nox ecu under the passenger side panel.. 

I have no idea what’s gone wrong tbh, I’m gonna check my logs from last week as I did a full scan before he had his adblue removed .. 

And no I’m afraid I didn’t reset any settings before the map 😬 I’ve not been doing this long, so it’s still a learning curve for me as every car is different ..

As for the gearbox I haven’t flashed the gearbox .

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try reflash that same file exported (in winols) with no checksum correction (let the tool do it)

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(12-13-2021, 01:34 AM)enot67 Wrote: try so

Thank you ! , I’ll give it a try as soon as I can and report back,  thanks to everyone for the advice advice and help ..


(12-13-2021, 01:45 AM)pulse Wrote: try reflash that same file exported (in winols) with no checksum correction  (let the tool do it)

I don’t have winols I’m afraid 😬

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12-13-2021, 03:37 AM

well i’m in the bad books with the misses , leaving late at night and turning up with the ecu :S
just re-flashed with the file from enot67, thanks again.. ill report back tomorrow.

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